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    giorgis 11:38 am on December 25, 2024 Permalink | Reply
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    The endless rebasing project 

    There’s a saying in Greek “Στερνή μου γνώση να σ’είχα πρώτα” that roughly translates to “if only had I known before, what I last learned”. Yes, I’d have done things a lot different! Perhaps the following can be of help to others if they go on such a rebasing task like I did, or just to get ideas on basing projects.

    What I wanted to achieve: table-ready results with the fewer steps possible.
    I blatantly failed due to a combination of factors:
    – Lipped bases
    – Shrinking basing medium

    Before I get to that let me give a quick summary of the project.
    After getting into 3d printing and seeing the capabilities, I decided to correct the varied basing I had for my miniatures. 15mm figures need 15mm bases. Looks better, has better zone of control, and fits better on a grid. Even with over 1000 figures to be rebased, I don’t regret this choice.


    Removing the figures from the bases was perhaps the easier part, with the exception of a handful of pewter miniatures that were superglued on coins, so hard that I had to bend the coin, and the integral base of the miniature to get them removed, it all went smooth more or less. I had about another handful minis barely damaged in the process because I was careless, but I could repair them easily. Overall about 99% success rate.
    Lessons learned:
    – To remove the figures from metal bases, heat them up first. I’ve used the 3d printer hot plate to 80C, and then using gloves, I could pop them carefully off the base.
    – To remove the figures from wood and MDF bases, I soaked the bases in water for several minutes (at least 5-10, the more the better), and then using two sets of pliers, I twisted the base so that the miniature popped off.
    – To remove the figures from plastic bases, I just used two sets of pliers to twist the base so that the miniature popped off.

    After this, I glued the minis to the new lipped 15mm bases, and once dry I had to retexture the bases. Did several different combinations trying to decide the best way to retexture with the least effort.

    For my sci-fi miniatures, I got the best results by applying carefully acrylic brown speckle to the base, and then dipping it into sand while still wet. I had no shrinking, however, the problem is that I had to be extra careful while applying the speckle, as to not dirty up the miniature.

    I didn’t want to do this for my fantasy miniatures, which where over double in number, so I went with a different approach, and brushed matte medium to which I dipped in flock + sand, and later on PVA glue when I ran out of matte medium. This was a big mistake, as I had varying degrees of shrinking, so much that the interior of the base between the lip and the miniature became a flocked gap. Which means I have to follow up with another brushing of glue and flock with static grass. At least from the looks of it, the static grass seems to cover the gaps. As you can understand this has set me back a lot, and I’ve spent tons of my hobby time just doing this.

    On hindsight, I should not be so adamant about a strong bond of the mini to the new base, and even before gluing the mini to the new base, I should have applied the acrylic brown speckle to the base, and just pushed the mini to the speckle to stick it there, there would have been a minimal mound, and it would be ready to dip in sand and voilla, done. Yes the bond would be just the speckle, but that’s enough for the overall integrity of miniatures.
    Alternatively, I could have used unlipped bases, but that would give me a pitcher’s mound which I wanted to get rid of. So it’s not the best solution.
    With all my miniatures rebased now, it’s absolutely too late to have a different go at it. I also don’t see another situation on my side for rebasing again in the future.

    Once I’m done with the final steps of rebasing I’ll start posting pictures of my new sets, as I believe they truly look better now.

    ps. I also did rebasing of my odd based miniatures, and cavalry and mounts as well. Some longer or wider sci-fi minis I based on 15x20mm pill bases, and my fantasy cavalry and mounts/animals on 15x30mm pill bases. These look significantly better now.


     
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    giorgis 12:48 pm on December 7, 2024 Permalink | Reply
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    Rebasing, Continued 

    With my fantasy miniatures I decided to delve a bit more into the best retexturing approach during rebasing.

    Rebased miniature prior to re-texturing. Note how the integral base of the miniature is already flocked with static grass from original basing

    aspects under consideration are:

    • ease of application
    • speed of application
    • possibility of error
    • number of steps
    • finished look
    Left to right: Fine Bird sand (top), Large brown sand (bottom), Green flock, Gray Flock, Brown Flock

    from left to right the basing materials used above are as follows:

    1. PVA + large grain sand
    2. Matte Medium + large grain sand
    3. Brown Acrylic Speckle + Static Grass
    4. Matte Medium + large grain sand + fine sand
    5. Matte Medium + large brown flock + fine sand
    6. Matte Medium + thin gray flock + fine sand
    7. Matte Medium + medium green flock + fine sand

    the results of this step are:

    1. large gaps in the base, will need second application, perhaps just one step of static grass will be enough. NOT table ready
    2. large gaps in the base, will need second application, perhaps just one step of static grass will be enough. NOT table ready
    3. table ready, however application is not easy as care must be taken to not paint the mini, and also must apply grass directly afterwards which is slow. Table Ready AND Finished
    4. irregularities in the base, easy application, barely acceptable look, will need static grass. Table Ready
    5. though the brown flock looks odd, will look ok with static grass. Table Ready
    6. looks ok, static grass will elevate the look. Table Ready
    7. looks as Finished, static grass will elevate the look. Table Ready

    In conclusion, the best results where with green flock + sand, and that’s what I’ll go with for my rebasing, so that I can postpone re-grassing them later in the future, and perhaps have time to do a few actual plays during the holidays.

    The steps for Matte Medium + Green Flock + Fine Sand are:

    1. using a brush, generously apply Acrylic Matte Medium inside of the lip of the base
    2. wipe off the outside of the base from any undesired medium
    3. dip the mini in the green flock
    4. shake off the flock
    5. clean the outer part of the base from any stuck material
    6. dip the mini in the sand
    7. shake off sand
    8. clean the outer part of the base from any stuck material

    I assume the above should also work with PVA, but I’d wager it would shrink more, be a bit glossy, and more difficult to apply than matte medium.

     
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